Interview with Dr. Lock #04

shima: Hello readers. This issue covers more of James Q&A session. Originally, it was planned to include Lyricus Discourse from around this issue, but for reasons I think will become apparent I decided it best to continue the Q&A session.

December 2008 an amazing WingMakers event occurred. James responded in interviews to Project Camelot. Project Camelot is a disclosure project, one of the founders of which is Kerry Lynn Cassidy who has the optional rights to the WingMakers movie. The interviews were astonishing, and wanting to introduce them to a wide range of readers I translated and released them on my web-site. The URL is on the last page of this e-magazine.

I regard the information in these interviews as the Neo dimension of WingMakers and it is undoubtedly quite a significant message to 21st century humanity. I believe that to read James Q&A session is an excellent pathway to deeper understanding of the contents of the Project Camelot interviews. My apologies go to those readers who have been looking forward to reading the other contents in this issue, but be assured Lyricus Discourse and the contents of the Lyricus web-site will be covered in the future.

And now, Dr, I have various topics I want to talk about with you in this issue, too. First I wish to further ask about the Tributary Zones covered in the previous issue as again this issue covers TZ and I think TZ is one of the core concepts of WMM. Because I think WMM itself is constructed by TZ methodologies.

According to the Glossary, the number of Galactic Tributary Zones is seven. And reading Chapter Eleven in AAP (novel) and Q1 of Lyricus teachers and Methodologies, we find that Galactic Tributary Zones are synthetic "planets". And it is said the Galactic Tributary Zones are located around the very center of our galaxy.

Recently our scientists discovered that a Mega black hole exists in the center of our galaxy. In my insight, all creation possesses fractal structure, and the structure of a galaxy reflects the figure of our soul. I think the black hole existing in our galaxy represents the core of our consciousness aka Entity in a metaphorical sense.

Dr: It is possible to perceive anything as a metaphor for something else. It just depends on the perception of the observer. If our galaxy represents the figure of our soul where is the galaxy's black hole within the soul? The soul has no black hole equivalent. It is a spark of Source itself.

Do you remember Neruda or the philosophy papers mentioning that First Source is surrounded by a negative black hole-like energy that keeps FS separate from us in the physical dimension? (See also Ch 6 painting central portal.) I find it easier to perceive the galaxy as a metaphor for our body.

In this metaphorical construct the black hole at the center of our galaxy becomes the black hole of our death wherein all that we physically are and have been is integrated through death and dissolution of the body and personality into the spirit when we ourselves cease to exist as an individual physical individual, just as the planets and suns eventually are integrated through the black hole into Source which lies beyond that central galactic black hole.

In chamber painting 6 we can see the black hole band within the portal above the SvIg and Svg Entity dividing the physical areas and dimension from Source shining beyond (in Chamber painting 6 central portal we see red Source Intelligence and Blue First Source shining beyond the black realm). Similarly it is the death "realm" which is the bridge that both unites and separates our body and personality from Source. It is upon dying that we really see and merge with First Source or Entity consciousness: death, actual or mythological, is our black hole that leads to the Source beyond it.

When we talk of consciousness we need to be sure what form or kind of consciousness we are referring to. Our personal consciousness is absorbed or integrated into the individual collective (of all previous incarnations experienced by the soul/spirit) consciousness upon and after death. Hence I would see the Entity consciousness, that collective, as the Source which lies beyond the black hole at the center of the galaxy in this metaphor. The black hole at the center of the galaxy represents the path of dissolution making it possible for the galaxy one day to arrive at Source itself. And so it is with our physical or mythological death.

shima: You set out very absorbing tentative theory in chamber 17 paper that a rocky mountain Native American holy place could be the AA-site of WM. A lot of people, including me, are eager to know further information about other sites of WingMakers' time capsules. I introduced Sacsaywaman site of Peru in the first book, and the Bock Saga and Lemminkainen temple of Finland in the third book, but do you have extra information about the other WM sites? If you have, we want to hear it by all means...

Dr: I understand your enthusiasm and keenness to now where these sites are, but if I did know I would be unlikely to tell you. Why? If I were/am right then with the information out others will go there and uncover them rather than those who could best do that job, assuming the area is not off limits; the area in Chamber 17 is off limits so no one can go there making it safe to mention. I do have an idea of where one other site is ? the one in Africa ? but do not wish to comment accept to say I think it is quite a way from the Chad area hinted at in the AA Book but still in Africa (James has said the sites are not exactly where indicated in the AA Book).

I plan to visit this area at some time in the future and have seen myself working there in some kind of archeological capacity. Of course it is possible this is not an ETC but something else I must help bring to light. When or if the time comes for me to go there I may well inform you of more on this, but now is not the time, because I think it could be the ETC site.

shima: Regarding locations of the ETCs on Earth. Each WingMakers' time capsule is the physical representation of a TZ and it seems that each site has linkage with an ancient civilization, tribe and culture. I wondered why they were located at these points, and I guessed there was some reason. And then I set each site on the 3D terrestrial globe, and I found a fortuitous fact.(fig.1)

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Viewing the AA-site from above, the other six sites make a hexagon-like figure. (fig.2)

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Do you think this is simply accidental? And is there any resonance to your study? I guess there is a possibility that this has some connection with the structure of the Energetic Heart or Seven disciplines of Lyricus...(fig.3)

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Dr: Planetary geometrics are a fact. That said, it is possible to see this more rigidly than occurs in reality. As you know fractals occur and the divine ratios are everywhere. We only have to look at any tree, however, to see that the organic nature of reality prevents the fractal from occurring exactly. Reality evolves organically and while divine mathematics is at the core of how Source Intelligence expresses itself the organic nature of reality as everything collides with everything else ensures that the end product is not a perfect fractal.

Seven is a divine number expressed throughout so much of nature and it is no coincidence that there are seven continents. There may well be seven continents on Erra in the Plejaren system too. Perhaps planets with animal and or human life forms tend to evolve into a seven-continental structure.

It is natural to have a site on each of these seven inhabited continents to best express and echo the planetary and mankindfs ultimately divine nature.

The distances between these sites and the continents and their sizes will not, however, all be exactly mathematically equal.

If the sites echoed exactly the planetary geometrics we would have 8 sites: one near each of the poles and 3 each along the approximate 19.5 degree latitudes N and S. But these areas are for different physical energy releases. As mankind lives on the seven continents it is there that the sites are placed.

shima: Regarding the extra art work: Now, I believe it is safe to say that the extra art work contained in First Source CD are composite pictures of AA site chamber paintings and other art work. I know that James had made a gift of an art work to you as one of chamber paintings from Hakomi site. I presume the extra art work is composite pictures of AA site chamber paintings and chamber paintings of the Hakomi site. Do you agree with my opinion? And if so, why do you think James did this?

Dr: Basically I agree, with the caveat that we have only seen two sites and there pictures to date. There may well be more in the future. It is difficult to answer why James did what he did because he is a person with this own mind and knowledge and so his own reasons and decisions for doing what he does. I'm not sure whether you are asking about specific examples or generally.

Generally I think James had certain visual concepts he wanted to get across and he could do this by combining different elements from previous "paintings". Why would he do this? Why not? The reproduction of Gauguin's in the previous supplement showed images that Gauguin had collected from previous paintings and combined into his great work. So such action is certainly not without precedent. Why did Gauguin do that. Again I cannot say. Maybe he was ill and so it was easier and safer that way. Or maybe he just wanted to put his works together in a collective statement. Maybe they were just perfect for the job.

In James case, maybe he became busy and it was the easiest way to get the pictures out there in the limited time available at the time. Then again, someone else's guess may be as good as mine. 

shima: At last the word SECU comes out in our e-magazine. All of my works are devoted to SECUs. I have been searching and waiting for SECUs for a long time. In the myth of WingMakers, I think the name of the girl Lea is the encoded / symbolic word signifying SECU. From the view of Semiotics, is there any signpost to know what Lea is? We would like to listen to your comment on this topic from your study.

Dr: Lea is primarily of poetic usage these days. So it could have been a hint towards the poetry to come to light and how the poetry is yet another way to transformation. There is very little written on how the poetry transforms. And indeed most go with the music or the paintings. Perhaps Lea then is an encoded word for the poet within us who can find and use this pathway.

Lay is "a short lyric or narrative poem intended to be sung; originally applied specifically to the poems, usually dealing with matter[s] of history or romantic adventure" (Oxford Companion to English Literature 1993). They were sung by minstrels. So we could see here a hinted fusion between the WM poetry and music, or at least some of the WMs' more lyrical (neo soul romanticism?) music which I personally love very much.

In old Scottish it is a variant of "leave". So we could see the one who leaves on the journey of discovery ? either of new ETCs in the story, or the spirit and boundless treasure within. On the other hand Leah in Dante represented active life, the opposite of Rachel as contemplative life, making Lea a good name for the one on an outward search for the ETCs of the AA Book.

Lea is also pronounced lay, meaning fallow or unused, unplowed land. Lea can then become that which is simple, virgin and unused; that which can be made ready through preparation for the planting and harvest. She is an innocent daughter, the innocent self (of all and any) that prepares self for Source and transformation ? the growing and the harvest. We can compare Lea the unplowed field to the simple un-carved block of wood of the Dhammapada or the Tao Te Ching that represents the perfect disciple; the one who will see and become illumined. It's the way to go.

Finally perhaps Lea is a lyrical metaphor for Lyricus itself and, yes, the Lyricus SECUs coming in the future who will contribute so much to future stages and developments of the WMM.

As you can see an image or semiotic can have many meanings and any or all can be apropos. This underscores both the difficulties and usefulness of semiotics. Which meanings are meant here? Without succumbing to one's own pet theories or ideas, divine your own answers.

shima: Do you have any special message about the content of this issue of e-magazine?

Dr: I hope you can understand why I do not wish to talk more yet about the potential ETC site. It is also only a possibility and the site could be elsewhere. There are times when it is just best to keep quiet about things.

In the movies Independence Day and Armageddon the governments tell the public fairly early on what is going on. Do you really think they would? I'm sure they would not say anything about those events until it was absolutely clear to many what was happening and the reality was no longer possible to deny. To announce anything like a devastating meteor is going to hit us (even, unless...) on a certain date would result in complete chaos, unfortunately.

The stock market would collapse immediately for starters, the economy would then reel and everyone would start panicking. Everything would fall apart immediately instead of when the meteor came into view. Thus there would be far less time for governments and other organizations in-the-know to do anything or offer any assistance. There is no way governments or any authorities of the world could announce things of that nature until the events have been discovered by the populace themselves. It's not that governments wouldn't want to inform in such cases. They just in all conscience cannot inform.

Think on this when/if you wish the governments or powerful bodies to come clean and tell everything about what is going on. Maybe they should with some things in certain areas, and they've probably miscalculated sometimes in the past regarding what not to tell the public, but in some other areas they really have no choice but to remain quiet and do what they can in secret alone.

Discovering an ETC is not a disastrous event likely to cause global mayhem, of course, but with today's global communication networks if you tell one person you tell everyone in the world, and in case the place I plan to visit sometime out in the future is an ETC I hope you'll agree it is best not to say anything at this time. We can talk about this when it is best to talk about it. You never know, I might be able to invite one or two people along, to be nearby. And if it is not an ETC I should be able to extend an invitation to a few of you if you are interested.

shima: Lots of people are enjoying your interview. Thank you very much.

Dr: Thank you, all for your interest and meditations upon these things.

End of Session